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Ostatnio się natknąłem na tą podobno dość inwazyjną roślinę w Polsce. Jej wygląd nie dawał mi spokoju, ponieważ wyglądał niesamowicie psychoaktywnie, ale poza jakimiś "urban legends" ciężko jest znaleźć jakiś konkretny trip report na necie. Może ktoś coś tutaj eksperymentował?

WILD CUCUMBER
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(Echinocystis lobata)

In the early l960s several children in Ojai, California, began conversing with
nonexistent persons and showing other symptoms of severe hallucination. It was
learned that they had been nibbling on the seeds of wild cucumbers. This low
crawling vine of the melon family can be found growing among thickets along
the coastal slopes of California, Washington and Oregon, as well as in many
other places throughout the U.S. It has greenish-white flowers and a spiny,
green, oblong fruit containing four large seeds. There is no information
available at the present time as to the exact chemical nature of the
hallucinogens in wild cucumber (possibly lysergic acid amides), but they are
most effective when the seed is not quite ripe, around middle or late spring.
One seed should be a good experimental starting dose. Birds eat the seed for
food without any harmful results, but since its chemistry is still unknown so
are its possible dangers. The trip lasts for eight to ten hours and no harmful
side effects have been noted.

[Klamm]

Pierwszy raz to widzę.

[korametsi]

The plant has been used medicinally by native Americans. The Taos Pueblo of New Mexico used it to treat rheumatism, while the Menominee of Wisconsin made a bitter extract from the roots for use as a love potion and as an analgesic. The powdered root has been used to prepare a poultice to relieve headaches

Z tego co widać Amerykanie używali ekstraktu z nasion (herbatka) głównie przeciwbólowo, na reumatyzm oraz jako "mikstura miłości".
Liście tej roślinki powodują problemy gastryczne. Owoce są jadalne.

https://books.duckduckgo.nl/books?id=nnFVFd ... &q&f=false (strona 125)
^ aby wejść zmieńcie w linku duckduckgo na wiadomą witrynę
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echinocystis - wiki
https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolczurka_klapowana