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1P-LSD, NP-LAD

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1P-LSD
N,N-dietylo-7-metylo-4-propanoilo-6,6a,8,9-tetrahydroindolo[4,3-fg]chinolino-9-karboksamid
dietyloamid kwasu 1-propionylolizergowy

Czytałem 3 trip raporty, wygląda na to że substancja bardzo aktywna, ~100ug na początek, około ~10h wynosi czas trwania badania, aktywność doznań podobno lepsza od pozostałych, takich jak allad czy LSZ.

Dawkowanie:

• Lekko 20 - 7o µg
• Standardowo 50 - 150 µg
• Mocno 150 - 350 µg
• Bardzo mocno 400 µg +

Czas działania

• około 8 - 10 h
• wejście 20-60 min
• Afterglow 2 h +

1P-LSD jest nielegalny w USA, Australii, Szwajcarii, Szwecji oraz Dani.

poprawki, edycja - witkacy

[leuckart]

A porównując do LSD?

[jarekjurek]

A wzór tego gdzieś jest? Znalazłem jeden TR i zapowiada się ciekawie:

Spoiler:

FIRST TRY

3 x 25ug doses through the day have produced definite psychedelic effects. More details -

After recieving this material in fluffy crystal form & laying 100 blotters with 5mg diluted into some vile rum yesterday, I cut a teeny square off one of the tabs &, after holding it under my tongue for a few minutes I swallowed. As expected, there was no effect of any kind.

Today at 11am exactly, I cut one 50ug blotter in half & ate it in the same way. I lay on my bed in the sunshine reading a book called Who Killed Mr Moonlight, by David J, an autobiography by the Bauhaus bassplayer. It's pretty funny but by 1pm I'd decided it wasn't that funny & I concluded that this new chemical concoction might be manifesting some effects...

So at exactly 1pm, two hours later I ate a further 25ug, & I can now confirm without question & beyond all reasonable doubt, that this material is definitely active. Glory be! A pleasant & very familiar physical lightness has replaced my usual state of stoned fugue. I cannot say for certain how the visual effects might progress, but at this threshold level of 50ug I have noticed an obvious increase in colour perception, 3-D depth embossment & a general sharpness to my vision. This effect is without doubt extremely similar to the lowest possible doses of Al-Lad, LSz & of course LSD (10ug of which I tested a month or so back, my first foray back into the world of LSD in almost 30 years marks the first of many, I suspect!). The main effect at 50ug of this material is the lightness of spirit & that familiar old lysergamide headspace, which is very familiar from other low dose experiments with other lysergamides.

So yeah, I'm beginning to think we're onto a winner. I am now preparing to engage a further 25ug from which point I shall call it a day. 11am, 1pm, 3pm. Nice, timely synergy, I feel. Lovely day too. Yes it's fucking freezing out there, but I ain't going no place It looks great from in here, leaning on the radiator looking out at the fractal trees, bare of leaves this time of year & stark against the pale blue sky & the low, low sun. The Bauhausian prose is rubbing off on me, methinks...

Things have picked up a little since the final 25ug. I'm now in pretty much exactly the space I'd expect to occupy if I'd ingested an average dose Al-Lad earlier today. Differences will undoubtably become more apparent at higher doses. Visuals remain subtle but there's now very gentle movement in my fractal posters, & the carpet... I doubt a total of 75ug will bring much more, but it's active! Where the shadows fall between the pages of my book, they look blue. I'm seeing more blue than I might normally expect to. It will be interesting if this material produces something other than the greens I expect from lyergamides. Now, of coure, everythings gone green lol Shades of New Order, as opposed to Bauhaus now...

It's now 2 hours since my final dose of 25ug. I find myself in a typically gentle psychedelic headpsace, mildly amused by my own thoughts & observations, but slightly distant, dreamy. I'm very chilled out, nothing intense going on here. I'm sure the white widow helps. Visually the effects have only peaked a little from where they were a couple of hours ago, in that colours are more apparent &, with effort, some movement can be observed in stationary objects. The white background to this text is now a pastel green & blue & pink & orange. I feel light-headed too, but have not eaten much in the last 24 hours, to aid this experiment & to aid the recovery of my soul, after nearly two whole days of consequetive & huge meals, the season of greed indeed.

My impressions are that this stuff will be fully in the face, for me, at the expected 150ug mark. There's a fair bit of synchronicity between my feelings on this stuff at my present dose, & those I've become quite familiar with through Al-Lad & LSz, & to a lesser extent, LSD. In fact, the extreme comfort & subtlety surrounding this experience so far actually reminds of the crystal lysergamide clarity with which I was able to view the world on that lovely summer day, last year when I tried Al-Lad for the first time. I am transported back to that day, that I remember quite clearly, like it was yesterday, like it was lunchtime. The psychedelic thought process are in usual full flow.

SECOND TRY about ten days, perhaps two weeks later...

10am 100ug of 1p-LSD tabs chewed & swallowed.

10:15 Light-headed, slightly dizzy. Bloody quick! Maybe I'm hungry lol

10:20 still suspiciously come-uppy here! Already.

10:30 No mistake, this stuff was alerting at 10 minutes! Amazing. Still only gentle & only starting but it's definitely on the way. Now, when the hell am I going to breakfast food in? Sweaty palms. Visuals commence. Spent some time in the bathroom admiring the plain white tiles & how colourfull they looked. Blues appear again... & greens

10:40 crikey, it's picking up fast now. May have to abandon notes. This is definitely way stronger than Al-Lad at 100ug

10:50 abandon notes for awhile.

11:30 come up has eased a little at last. phew. quite fucking trippy this! Reminds me
more than anything else of LSD

12:00 had plans to go see the Hobbit at 1pm, may still make it, may not. Let's try briefly to describe the effects of this stuff. Briefly. It's fucking trippy! My pupils are pulsating. There is alot of movement in stationary objects. Typing is not easy at all. Colours have gone nuts, I've found a few completely novel ones all of my own in the white background to this text.

12:30 I really am not comfortable with the idea of sitting still in a cinema, rght now..

13:00 no chance, maybe later with the hobbit. I ate some apple, & I could taste all the
chemicals that make up apple flavour, but I couldn't taste apple. Well, I could, but the chemicals that make up the flavour were more obvious than the flavour itself.

13:30 Honestly, I think this is shaping up to be the strongest lysergamide trip I've had
since the 90's. This stuff is almost, if not entirely, indestinguishable from LSD. The way the drug comes on is different, but the actual effects are very, very similar.

14:00 I'm not entirely certain I've even peaked yet. Maybe. Serious psychedelic this one. The sky from the comfort of bed looks amazing, but a quick walk outside for coke & a spliff felt decidedly chilly. Skin feels very sensitive to wind & temperature. Everything you'd expect from a psychedelic is present, visual, auditory, eomtional & thought process, all thoroughly psychedelic.

14:45 Okay, definitely seems to have peaked now, but it's hardly easing off much yet. Still don't fancy being stuck to a cinema seat. Tomorrow.

15:45 ...still wearing off... slowly... but still pretty active considering only 100ug was dosed nearly 6 hours ago. I have smoked much less herb than I might usually during the day, but now that Hobbits are definitely off the menu, I have a feeling it might be time for a spliff.

18:30 again, still easing off slowly, slowly, but still definitely active. 8 & half hours since dosing.

9pm 11 hours since dosing. Effects eased about two hours ago, possible lingering stimulation, but nothing serious. I feel a marked hangover now, reminiscent of 2c type comedown. Expect easy sleep from any point now.

Next Day Slept fine. Awoke a little hungover, & a little grumpy, touchy. This eased by midday. My trip partner reported nausea on the immediate comedown last night & a headache but I suffered neither. My impressions are that this material is stronger than either Al-Lad or LSz & produces a deeper, slightly less obviously recreational effect. It has more in common with actual LSD than it does with Al-Lad & LSz, in my opinion.

Żarłbym, mam nadzieję, że niedługo będzie to można dostać u jakiegoś polskiego vendora ^_^

[FajnieJest]

O MOJ BORZE YESSSSS YASSSSS!!! :D

[rzabanakwasie]

Kolejny TR. Brzmi zajebiście.
Z bluelighta:

it should go on sale today to people in the UK & Poland

Mam nadzieję, że prawda :diabolic:

[Teabadger]

1P-LSD? One Player LSD. Kolejny lizergamid się pojawia, bardzo mnie to cieszy. Ciekawe jak tam z bodyloadem...

[FajnieJest]

Mowia ze mniejszy niz LSZ ale ciut wiekszy niz AL-LAD.
JA PIERDOLE JAK JA SIE TEGO JUZ NIE MOGE DOCZEKAC STESTOWAC!!!

[drZordon]

Czekam z niecierpliwością :D

[Witkacy]

Raczej nie ma co się spodziewać szybkiego pojawienia się 1P-LSD u naszych sprzedawców
(chociaż chciałbym aby tak nie było).

Wygląda na to, a przynajmniej hipotetycznie musi to być pro-drug, jeśli faktycznie tak będzie, a wszystko na to wskazuje, to AL-LAD straciłby swoją popularność w EU i PL, a zapasy muszą/musiałyby się skończyć.
Też nie wiadomo, czy pierwsza partia 1P szybko się nie skończy lub jakie będzie zaintersowanie społeczeństwa.
Cenowo 1p wypada podobnie, ~100ug- jest typową dawką, a ~150ug już ok, a czas z 8-10 nawet do 13h.
No nie wiem, zobaczymy jak z tym będzie. Brytole są chyba zadowoleni, a i tutaj pewnie pojawią się opisy naszych TR. ;-)

Player1 win?

[FajnieJest]

To nie jest raczej prodrug bo dziala dluzej i potrzeba ciut mniej aby uzyskac - w porownaniu do LSD - mocnego tripa.