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Pół litra na dwóch. Jestem pijany.


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[Syn Bozy]

dobry jest ten absynt, ale tujonu ma 9 x mniej niż ten oryginalny :P

[jogurt]

dobry jest ten absynt, ale tujonu ma 9 x mniej niż ten oryginalny :P

Co z tego skoro tujon nic nie daje?

[dobson]

daje daje

[Syn Bozy]

z tego co wiem daje... to jest aktywny składnik piołunu

[jogurt]

eeee huja sie znacie :P

[Kurwik]

Słuchać jogurta. Zdrowy jest, zwłaszcza ten naturalny. I ma rację.

Angielska wiki:

Absinthe has long been believed to be hallucinogenic. Ten years after Dr. Magnan's experiments with wormwood oil, he studied 250 cases of alcoholism and claimed that those who drank absinthe were worse off than those drinking alcohol, and that they experienced, among other things, rapid-onset hallucinations.[46] Few descriptions of these hallucinations exist from absinthe drinkers, beyond a few quotes from poets after a night of drinking. In one of the most famous, Oscar Wilde describes the feeling of tulips on his legs after leaving a bar.[47] These beliefs got a boost in the 1970s when a scientific paper mistakenly reported thujone was related to THC and most likely had similar hallucinogenic properties based on its shape.[48] With the advent of usenet and web recipes 'trip reports' have been circulating for many years. These home recipes sometimes call for known hallucinogenic herbs in a mistaken attempt to recreate Absinthe's supposed hallucinogenic effects.

Today it is known that absinthe does not cause hallucinations, especially those described in the old studies. Thujone, the supposed active chemical in absinthe, is a GABA antagonist and while it can produce muscle spasms in large doses, there is no evidence it causes hallucinations.

It has been speculated that absinthe's effects were due to poisonous chemicals being added to cheaper products in an effort by the makers to give their products a more vivid colour [source needed. It was on the History Channel].

The effects of absinthe have been described by artists as mind opening and even hallucinogenic and by prohibitionists as turning "good people" "mad and desolate". Sometimes called 'secondary effects', the most commonly reported experience is a 'clear-headed' feeling of inebriation — a 'lucid drunkenness', said to be caused by the thujone and other compounds. Some, such as chemist and absinthe historian Ted Breaux, say that these effects may be caused by the fact that some of the compounds act as stimulants, others as sedatives, overall creating a neutral effect.[49] Most others feel that the placebo effect and individual reaction to the herbs make these secondary effects subjective and minor compared to the psychoactive effects of alcohol.

A study in the Journal of Studies on Alcohol[50] concluded that a high concentration of thujone in alcohol has negative effects on attention performance. It slowed down reaction time, and subjects concentrated their attention in the central field of vision. Medium doses did not produce an effect noticeably different from plain alcohol. The high dose of thujone in this study was larger than what one can get from current beyond-EU-regulation 'high thujone' absinthe before becoming too drunk to notice, and while the effects of even this high dose were statistically significant in a double blind test, the test subjects themselves could still not reliably identify which samples were the ones containing thujone. As most people describe the effects of absinthe as a more lucid and aware drunk, this suggests that thujone alone is not the cause of these effects.

[BlessJah]

nie wydaje mi się że alkohol jest w polskim prawie widziany jako narkotyk.

Przez polskie prawo nie jest, ale w rzeczywistości ''narkotykiem'' jest (co to w ogóle jest narkotyk?).
Alkohol jest narkotykiem z grupy DEPRESANTÓW, kawa jest narkotykiem z grupy STYMULANTÓW, herbata również jest narkotykiem z grupy PSYCHODELIKÓW (dawniej: FANTASTIKÓW).

[Halik]

lol, jaki zwiazek z psychodelikami ma herbata?

[Syn Bozy]

Jezus, 14.11.2007, 20:09:
nie wydaje mi się że alkohol jest w polskim prawie widziany jako narkotyk.

Przez polskie prawo nie jest, ale w rzeczywistości ''narkotykiem'' jest (co to w ogóle jest narkotyk?).

Alkohol jest narkotykiem z grupy DEPRESANTÓW, kawa jest narkotykiem z grupy STYMULANTÓW, herbata również jest narkotykiem z grupy PSYCHODELIKÓW (dawniej: FANTASTIKÓW).

To nie mi to mów, ja o tym dobrze wiem :-p