TALK - Rozmowy [H]

[Crytek]

Ostatnio przed snem zafundowałem sobie 10mg zolpidemu, nie mogłem zasnąć, miałem sceny przed oczami, poryta bania, więcej niż 5mg przed snem nie biorę, nigdy więcej.
@Up, co się działo? Opowiedz, hehe :)

[misstle]

od 2 lat zjadam zolpik, czasem po jednej, a zdarzało się do 5 tabletek dochodzić.

super stanu euforyczne za mną, ale i tak noc w noc go jem.

ile przypałów zrobiłam to nie zliczę.

ale mam odruch samoistny, zawsze choćby nie wiem co kasuje skrzynkę wysłanych wiadomości,żeby rano nie umrzeć z zażenowania:D

[Kakihara]

Zolpidem brany w ciagu nie w celach rekreacyjnych dziala nasennie bardzo dobrze jak zreszta napisalem powyzej, przykladem moze byc moja babcia (i pewnie sporo innych babc) ktora bije mnie stazem zazywania (okolo 10 lat 1-2 tab przed snem) i dalej na nia dziala.

[Thirteen]

Mam pytanie: Ktoś wie jak to przygotować do i.v.? Mam Nasen. W alkoholu, w wodzie? Podgrzewać czy nie?

"Zaleplon and (Es)Zopiclone don't look to be readily water soluble. Though they are soluble in ethanol. And yes if you have pure ethanol it can be injected (It's done in hospitals for methanol poisoning) No I don't recommend it."

Tutaj mam jakiś cytat.

"I can comment on injecting zolpidem as I've got a decent amount of experience with it. I get the name brand ambien 10's and CR's by prescription. I've never tried using the CR's for IV, I use those when I have to get sleep. I get the feeling they wouldn't work anyway. But the 10's are a different story...

I would completely disagree that the rush is similar to coke. While one could make the argument that there are some similar effects (aural manipulation mainly) but ambien is much more of a 'wtf dimension did i just slip into?' kind of feeling than a bell ringing coke rush.

Zolpidem is an odd drug to IV for several reasons and I'll try my best to explain why.

Injecting it has two distinct effects, the body buzz and the head trip.

The body buzz.

If I just swallow an ambien, I get a fairly nice neutral buzz with some sedation and generally an enjoyable experience. For me, it's similar to ~20-30mg valium but a little more hypnotic. When I've injected the zolpidem the physical buzz is much weaker, probably only 30-40% the strength I get from eating them. Also the law of diminishing returns goes into effect instantaneously.

For those who aren't familiar with the LODR (I imagine most all of you are), I'll try to explain it quickly.

Smoke a joint. Now you are high. = (1x)
Smoke a second joint. Now you are twice as high. = (2x)

This is not the case with IV ambien. Each additional shot adds less and less to the total body buzz. After doing ten 10mg shots in 3 hours, I felt about (4x) the body buzz of the initial shot. But ambien is weird like that, I've heard some people say that eating 10mg and 50 mg has the exact same effect. So if a stronger ambien body buzz is what you're looking for you're not going to find it IV. So if the buzz is weaker, why inject???

The head trip

Seconds after you IV ambien you'll notice is that your hearing ability goes through a radical shift. I suppose the best way to describe it is that it feels like someone just flattened all the EQ sliders in your head. Things get quiet and it seems like you could hear a pin drop in a crowded room.... very weird.
A few seconds later the 'trip' hits. The first shot always feels like you're shifting dimensions and just feels 'sci fi' (best word I can think of for it). No paranoia or anything, just intense curiosity and heavy sedation.

The trick to it is to close your eyes and lay back immediately after injection. I usually have everything prepared so that all i have to do is pull out, recap the rig and nod.

The actual trip is like being on a pychedelic with heavy sedation. Reminds me a lot of nitrous. Often, I 'communicate' with the trip in some way and get that 'epiphany feeling' similar to the apex of a great acid trip or a huge Nitrous balloon. As others have said, it usually feels as if there are lots of 'people' around you, and that the room you are in has someway animated itself (everything seems very bendy and rubbery). I usually mumble something incoherent and kind of rock around in my chair a little....much like a hypnotized chicken, .

Remember, keep your eyes closed and enjoy. In my experience, once I open my eyes, that's it. Then you've got to do another one to pick up where you left off.

Preparation

For those who are interested in trying it, this is the method I've found that works fine for me. Use around 120 units of water and just drop the entire name brand ambien into a spoon. Heat it from underneath and the coating will magically slide right off, just use a plunger or something sterile to pull it out. After removing the coating, apply more heat until you get a little boiling. Basically you are just trying to soften the pill. Quickly use a plunger to mash the now soft pill into the liquid and after a few times you'll see how much heat you need to get it done right. I usually have about 80 units left, which is good because it's a thick solution. After that I add at least 150 units of water to the 80 units to dilute it a little before using the micron filter.

Now the bad news,

The actual trip only lasts about 4 or 5 minutes, which is a annoying considering how interesting they often get. Also, there is a lot of junk in the brand name ambiens (i'm sure just as much in the generics) that doesn't go away even after using a micron filter. Right now I'm using .45, need to try it with a small filter, but I imagine it wont make much of a difference. I don't have any sources on the health aspects of injecting ambien, but as a drug user of 10 years I can say that it's not like eating vitamins.

I've heard several times that the risks of Ambien OD are extremely small, but I don't have any official sources to document that, so dont go bang 50 pills in one night. My guess would be that the biggest danger from IV ambien (other than compulsively buying junk on eBay) is the long term damage to your body. Injecting pills comes at a price. Most of you know this, but all those binders and extra shit that gets stuck in your body adds up over time. It definitely does not lead to you winning a strong man competition in 30 years. Sadly, too many IV users won't see another 30 years, or 5 years, or 5 days for that matter. But we do it anyway. Huh. I wonder why? I guess I'll save that tangent for another time.

-Systemic"

[Thirteen]

Mam pytanie: Ktoś wie jak to przygotować do i.v.? Mam Nasen. W alkoholu, w wodzie? Podgrzewać czy nie?

"Zaleplon and (Es)Zopiclone don't look to be readily water soluble. Though they are soluble in ethanol. And yes if you have pure ethanol it can be injected (It's done in hospitals for methanol poisoning) No I don't recommend it."

Tutaj mam jakiś cytat.

"I can comment on injecting zolpidem as I've got a decent amount of experience with it. I get the name brand ambien 10's and CR's by prescription. I've never tried using the CR's for IV, I use those when I have to get sleep. I get the feeling they wouldn't work anyway. But the 10's are a different story...

I would completely disagree that the rush is similar to coke. While one could make the argument that there are some similar effects (aural manipulation mainly) but ambien is much more of a 'wtf dimension did i just slip into?' kind of feeling than a bell ringing coke rush.

Zolpidem is an odd drug to IV for several reasons and I'll try my best to explain why.

Injecting it has two distinct effects, the body buzz and the head trip.

The body buzz.

If I just swallow an ambien, I get a fairly nice neutral buzz with some sedation and generally an enjoyable experience. For me, it's similar to ~20-30mg valium but a little more hypnotic. When I've injected the zolpidem the physical buzz is much weaker, probably only 30-40% the strength I get from eating them. Also the law of diminishing returns goes into effect instantaneously.

For those who aren't familiar with the LODR (I imagine most all of you are), I'll try to explain it quickly.

Smoke a joint. Now you are high. = (1x)
Smoke a second joint. Now you are twice as high. = (2x)

This is not the case with IV ambien. Each additional shot adds less and less to the total body buzz. After doing ten 10mg shots in 3 hours, I felt about (4x) the body buzz of the initial shot. But ambien is weird like that, I've heard some people say that eating 10mg and 50 mg has the exact same effect. So if a stronger ambien body buzz is what you're looking for you're not going to find it IV. So if the buzz is weaker, why inject???

The head trip

Seconds after you IV ambien you'll notice is that your hearing ability goes through a radical shift. I suppose the best way to describe it is that it feels like someone just flattened all the EQ sliders in your head. Things get quiet and it seems like you could hear a pin drop in a crowded room.... very weird.
A few seconds later the 'trip' hits. The first shot always feels like you're shifting dimensions and just feels 'sci fi' (best word I can think of for it). No paranoia or anything, just intense curiosity and heavy sedation.

The trick to it is to close your eyes and lay back immediately after injection. I usually have everything prepared so that all i have to do is pull out, recap the rig and nod.

The actual trip is like being on a pychedelic with heavy sedation. Reminds me a lot of nitrous. Often, I 'communicate' with the trip in some way and get that 'epiphany feeling' similar to the apex of a great acid trip or a huge Nitrous balloon. As others have said, it usually feels as if there are lots of 'people' around you, and that the room you are in has someway animated itself (everything seems very bendy and rubbery). I usually mumble something incoherent and kind of rock around in my chair a little....much like a hypnotized chicken, .

Remember, keep your eyes closed and enjoy. In my experience, once I open my eyes, that's it. Then you've got to do another one to pick up where you left off.

Preparation

For those who are interested in trying it, this is the method I've found that works fine for me. Use around 120 units of water and just drop the entire name brand ambien into a spoon. Heat it from underneath and the coating will magically slide right off, just use a plunger or something sterile to pull it out. After removing the coating, apply more heat until you get a little boiling. Basically you are just trying to soften the pill. Quickly use a plunger to mash the now soft pill into the liquid and after a few times you'll see how much heat you need to get it done right. I usually have about 80 units left, which is good because it's a thick solution. After that I add at least 150 units of water to the 80 units to dilute it a little before using the micron filter.

Now the bad news,

The actual trip only lasts about 4 or 5 minutes, which is a annoying considering how interesting they often get. Also, there is a lot of junk in the brand name ambiens (i'm sure just as much in the generics) that doesn't go away even after using a micron filter. Right now I'm using .45, need to try it with a small filter, but I imagine it wont make much of a difference. I don't have any sources on the health aspects of injecting ambien, but as a drug user of 10 years I can say that it's not like eating vitamins.

I've heard several times that the risks of Ambien OD are extremely small, but I don't have any official sources to document that, so dont go bang 50 pills in one night. My guess would be that the biggest danger from IV ambien (other than compulsively buying junk on eBay) is the long term damage to your body. Injecting pills comes at a price. Most of you know this, but all those binders and extra shit that gets stuck in your body adds up over time. It definitely does not lead to you winning a strong man competition in 30 years. Sadly, too many IV users won't see another 30 years, or 5 years, or 5 days for that matter. But we do it anyway. Huh. I wonder why? I guess I'll save that tangent for another time.

-Systemic"

[userd]

Po co kombinujesz z takim podaniej jeśli wciągnięte nosem działa niemal natychmiast.?

[Thirteen]

Chciałbym sprawdzić czy jest inne wejście - patrz troszkę nietrafiony przykład tryptamin.

[Thirteen]

- http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=276272

Bardzo fajny temat o zolpi i.v. na bluelighcie.

[vitharis]

Ja głównie brałem "Nasen" do zwiększenia pewności siebie, zazwyczaj 10mg + piwo. Po 1,5 goniliśmy z kumplem pociąg, lekkie przywidzenia i podatność na różne zwariowane sugestie :P

[Thirteen]

Poprosiłbym moda o sklejenie tego wszystkiego.

Zrobiłem to i.v.
Włożyłem półtorej tabletki do moździerza i zrobiłem taki "pył". Potem wrzuciłem do kieliszka, zalałem 1ml wody, pomieszałem, włożyłem na piec, jak zaczęły bąbelki się robić to odstawiłem, przefiltrowałem 2 razy i już.

Nie jest przezroczysty, troszkę "mętny".

Pierwsze uczucie to przyspieszone bicie serca, potem się położyłem, ale bez większych efektów. Reszta jak po normalnym sniffie.

Nic specjalnego przy 15mg, nawet na 30 unitów w insulinówce nie było jakiegoś wejścia jakiego oczekiwałem.

Spróbowałbym z 30mg, ale nie mam już Nasenu ;(.