TALK - Rozmowy [H]

[Vetulani44]

Nowy związek pojawił się u jednego z vendorów. Dostępny w pelletach 5mg. Rzekomo w działaniu nie różni się od zwykłych 2C-x i jest LEGALNY, nieobjęty ostatnim banem na fenyloetyloaminy w NL.

Wpis z PIHKAL:

Spoiler:

DOSAGE: 10 - 16 mg.

DURATION: 32 - 48 h.

QUALITATIVE COMMENTS: (with 14 mg) I was well aware of things at the end of two hours, and I was totally unwilling to drive, or even go out of the house. I was reminded continuously of 2C-B with its erotic push, and the benign interplay of colors and other visual effects. But it is so much longer lived. I am a full +++, very stoned, and there is no believable sign of dropping for another several hours. There is a good appetite (again, 2C-B like), and I managed to sleep for a few hours, and all the next day I was spacey and probably still a plus one. The day yet following, I was finally at a believable baseline. Both of these days were filled with what might be called micro doze-offs, almost like narcolepsy. Maybe I am just sleep deprived.

(with 16 mg) The first effects were felt within one hour, and full effects between 2 1/2 and 3 hours. Tremendous clarity of thought, cosmic but grounded, as it were. This is not at all like LSD, and is a lot mellower than the 2C-T family. For the next few hours it was delightful and fun and I felt safe and good-humored. I got to sleep without much difficulty while still at a plus three, and my dreams were positive and balanced, but I awoke irritable and emotionally flattened. I did not want to interact with anyone. The first 16 hours of this stuff were great, and the second 16 hours were a bit of a drag. Just twice as long as it ought to be.

(with 16 mg) I was at full sparkle within three hours, and I continued to sparkle for the longest time. The tiredness that comes after a while probably reflects the inadequacy of sleep. I was aware of something still going on some two days later.

[WladyslawWygiello]

W którą stronę się toto wygina, to racemat jest? Pewnie żadnych danych na ten temat? Czy ten węgiel po prostu idzie równo z płaszczyzną pierścienia?

[Vetulani44]

Racemat

[izopropylofenidat]

Ponoć działanie utrzymuje sie do 48h według Shulgina czy to jest prawda? Czy to jest prawda joł
jeśli tak to poza byciem ciekawostką nie widze przyszłości dla 2c-g-5. Mogliby sie powrotem do tryptamin zająć a nie ciągle odgrzewanie jakichś chujowatych fenylek typu 2c-ef

[Vetulani44]

W okresie doca, bromoważki itd też było długie działanie i ludzie brali. Czemu uważasz np. 2c-ef za chujowe?

[AnnaS]

To niby podobne do ganeshy! Jak byłoby choć trochę takie to byłby ogień auuu

[Vetulani44]

@AnnaS Tak, skoro Ganesha (G-1) to amfetaminowa pochodna 2C-G to chyba 2c-g-5 musi być dosyć podobne. Co do czasu działania to wierzę, że amatorów takich przygód nie brakuje (a przynajmniej nie brakowało), chociaż ja wolę średnią długość.

[izopropylofenidat]

Jakby ktoś był ciekawy czemu akurat 2c-g-5 się pojawiło to wrzucam jako ciekawostke. Dotyczy ostatniego bana w NL. Nawet nie wiedziałem że to ban analogowy :/

e ban is split up in to parts, those based on 2-phenethylamine AND has structure element A and B. Structure element A (the phenyl ring on phenethylamines) only includes the following: phenyl-, naftyl-, tetralinyl-, methylenedioxyphenyl-, ethylenedioxyphenyl-, furyl-, pyrrolyl-, thienyl-, pyridyl-, benzofuranyl-, dihydrobenzofuranyl-, indanyl-, indenyl-, tetrahydrobenzodifuranyl-, benzodifuranyl-, tetrahydrobenzodipyranyl-, cyclopentyl-, cyclohexyl.

Now you may have realised, 2c-g-5 does not have any of the above substituted phenyl groups, instead, it is a norbornyl- group. This makes it not fall under the phenethylamine ban.

The norbornyl group also doesn't fall under any of the R-substituted groups that are also in the ban, those being hydrogen, fluoride, chloride, iodide, alkyl (groups up to C6), alkenyl (groups up to C6), alkinyl (groups up to C6), alkoxy (groups up to C6), carboxy, alkylsulfanyl (groups up to C6) or nitro groups.

[AnnaS]

Ja akurat jako jedyna tutaj próbowałam ganeshy i to jest wręcz piękne, czyli jakby 2C-G-5 miało czas działania 48h to na weekend jak znalazł.